Where in Revelation chapter Four, Do You See the Church in Heaven?

Q: Where in Revelation chapter 4, do you see the Church in Heaven? 
 
A: That is a legitimate question. The scenes in Chapters 4 and 5 of The Revelation are Heavenly scenes. We see the Church in Heaven (before the throne of God) in the reference to the 24 Elders (Rev 4:1-4). 

The 24 elders are referred to in Revelation 5:8-9 as those who were “redeemed from the earth” (i.e., resurrected/raptured saints). Everything else that happens on earth between Revelation chapter 5 and Revelation chapter 18, happens while the Church is in Heaven with Christ. 


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